>_>. Once created, Vichy France will find itself in control of southern Metropolitan France as well as most of France's colonial empire. The memory of the Great War is also very much alive, and the people of France are reluctant to fight another major war in Europe. If played correctly, the Second World War (and any other conflicts before 1948) could very well see France reborn and reshaped and emerge from the crucible of war as the far bigger and stronger European Union. The Habsburg Sub-branch However, their government is divided, with Communist influences threatening to weaken it further. After our defeat we are really in no condition to contest it. ohhhh I didnt know that about how theyll join an opposing faction. If that happens, whoever that leader is will assume this role of European protector, even if they are on the other side of the world. Hi, let me introduce myself! 'Our request to join Britain as Allies has been denied. In the wake of the French armistice with Germany and establishment of a new government in Vichy France, a group of senior officers have rebelled against the new French government. Press J to jump to the feed. Both countries will load up a new National Focus Tree. Any way from preventing countries joining factions mid war?! Many in their government wish to seek an armistice with Germany, but some have responded favorably to a suggestion by members of the British War Cabinet to merge our two nations into one. As France, have at least 150 Destroyers and research the maximum torpedo launcher technology, before 1945. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Enabled if: The Prussian Menace was a nightmare. However, around a year later, in 1940, when actual combat ensued between all three powers, the Allied armies were defeated in just six weeks during the Battle of France against Germany and Italy, in contrast to the years-long campaign expectation by both sides. Examples of alternative division template names for France include: France has 1 Carrier(CV), 5 Battleships(BB), 7 Heavy Cruisers(CA), 7 Light Cruisers(CL), 52 Destroyers(DD) and 63 Submarines(SS) at the start, and boasts a somewhat modern - if badly understrength - fleet. Note that doing so may result in the UK guaranteeing them, so it's recommended that either the UK also be player-controlled, or the USSR have caused as little tension as possible (justifying on the Dutch East Indies can also help lower the tension). Send Tank Volunteers to Republican Spain, and use them to secure the ports in Asturias; delay for as long as possible (if Nationalist Spain does either a Methodical Approach or Caudillo of Spain after Martyrdom for Primo de Riveria instead of Consolidate the North, you're on the right track). Press J to jump to the feed. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. With Britain at peace, [From.GetLeader] has agreed to the requests by French political parties for the restoration of a provisional French government. Content Design, HoI4 [Retired] Paradox Staff 57 Badges. Albania Austria Belgium Bulgaria Czechoslovakia Denmark Estonia Finland France Free France Vichy France German Reich Kingdom of Greece Kingdom of Hungary Ireland Italy Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Nationalist Spain Republican Spain Romania Slovakia Soviet Union Sweden Switzerland Turkey Republic of Ukraine United Kingdom Yugoslavia, Dominion of Canada Costa Rica Cuba Dominican Republic El Salvador Guatemala Haiti Honduras Mexico Nicaragua Panama United States, Argentina Bolivia Brazil Chile Colombia Ecuador Paraguay Peru Uruguay Venezuela, Afghanistan Bhutan British Malaya British Raj China Communist China Dutch East Indies Guangxi Clique Iran Iraq Japan Manchukuo Mengkukuo Mongolia Nepal Oman Philippines Saudi Arabia Shanxi Siam Sinkiang Tannu Tuva Tibet Xibei San Ma Yemen Yunnan, Angola Sultanate of Aussa Botswana Kingdom of Egypt Ethiopia Liberia South Africa, Australia Melanesian Federation New Zealand Tahiti. on Paradox technology, Legal Somewhat historical, like by 1 or so. France both borders the Mediterranean Sea to the south, the English channel to the Northwest and the Bay of Biscay to the west. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast . If you're playing Germany, you can kill fascist countries without any interference from the Allies or Comintern thoughonce world tension is too high, just kill Italy and Spain, and start raising fascist support in other target countries. He later moved on to Morgan Stanley's Moscow office. Charles de Gaulle delivered a radio broadcast urging resistance against the collaborationist Vichy regime. Feeling secured by the Maginot Line in the Eastern provinces of Alsace-Lorraine, France declared war against Germany with the United Kingdom in 1939 after Germany's invasion of Poland. Has completed focus Army Reform In the following months, the French government was extensively reorganized. As France, occupy Moscow while Napoleon VI is your country leader. Japan and other Asian countries asked to join my faction and join the war which helped since it caused russia to stack some of their forces on their eastrn front which helped my war with them even more. We must now think to the future. Germany and the USSR did sign the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, but neither side . To the Northeast in the region of Alsace-Lorraine lies the small Vosges mountain range and the huge river Rhine, which makes up the natural border with German Reich. Follow the Forming the European Union steps for how to form it, but make sure to not go down any focus tree other than the monarchist branch, as well as making sure that the Carlists win the Spanish civil war and the monarchist Portuguese win their civil war and the Brazilian monarchist civil war (If they Don't fire, don't worry, that just means you don't have to help them through the civil wars). Press J to jump to the feed. This thread is archived . If playing on multiplayer with a player-controlled Soviet Union, one method is to have them join the war and have them declare on the Benelux countries - as this will drag them into the Axis, they can be taken into the peace deal. However, the very good civilian production allows for considerable military buildup in the years before the war and France can easily build up its industry to a comparable level once negative modifiers have been removed. In terms of technology, France has a good head start on mechanized, motorized and tank forces with only a little catch-up for infantry weapons. France can form the European Union through a decision if it is democratic and controls the requisite territories (those being all of its own starting core states a well as the starting core states of Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. Changing conscription laws will make Full Employment worse but can be removed with the National focus. Using his extensive powers, Ptain effectively abolished the Third French Republic and replaced it with the "French State" (French: tat Franais) or the "French Nation (French: Nation Franais)colloquially known as Vichy France (French: Rgime de Vichy)a unitary authoritarian dictatorship. ". The British government has dismissed any possibility of merging our two nations into one. Since Free France can only be created by having France be allied with the United Kingdom and is a government-in-exile hosted by the UK, it will remain in the Allies.. Military [edit | edit source]. Note that one can spawn Carlist Spain on Historical if certain conditions are met (while this won't allow you to gain Brazilian Cores, you can still gain cores on all of Iberia if Spain forms that nation) - as soon as the Spanish Civil War begins, start Intervention in the Spanish Civil War and rush the decision for Volunteers. They have no access to Oil so they need to import that. Germany lost i got 2/3 of Austria and then the Allies went to greece and Turkey to kill them. Information, Frequently Asked He became a senior analyst at age 26 at Alfa-Bank, Russia's largest private bank, before a brief spell getting his master's of finance at the University of London. If we agree to their request, we are effectively signing over control of Indochina to them. And somehow Poland-Romania started a war against the Soviet Union and I thanked them for it and quit the game. Whilst the Marine Nationale is strong enough to decisively defeat either the Kriegsmarine or the Regia Marina alone, it would have no chance against a combined Axis fleet. So how did your first MP game go. If allied with the United Kingdom (which can annex all of its dominions and even the United States to form the Imperial Federation), these two titans can easily become the dominant superpowers of the post-war world order. After the defeat of the allied armies in the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg in 1940 and the British evacuation of their forces from Dunkirk to England, the French front collapsed. After theyre gone I need to find a way to disolve my Axis and then take the rest of the countries over until my Reich spans the globe! Germany has earned our trust in the honoring of our Naval Pact, and while we will defend ourselves should the fires spread we will not risk fanning the flames. Any time a country that is part of a faction attacks another country, the defending country will join an opposing faction. becuase fighting england as germany is just a chore . Yippee. Similarly, France can act differently in response to German demands for Sudetenland than the UK; if the UK agrees to let Germany have the Sudetenland, the French can either agree with the UK, which will also cancel their guarantee on Yugoslavia, or refuse to go along with the UK and form a faction with Czechoslovakia. However, poor naval infrastructure and low shipbuilding priority means that constructing a large modern fleet is not easy, and in fact can often be counter-productive in that it denies vital raw materials from tank and motorized production. Information, Frequently Asked Threatened with annihilation, the British evacuated their expeditionary forces and what Allied units they could until Dunkirk fell. French political parties are increasingly calling for the establishment of a provisional government and a general election. To the south lies the Pyrenees mountains which separate France from Spain. You can always invade them anyway later, I like to take out Nationalist Spain as Italy right after the civil war sometimes, because nobody protects them. But honestly as Germany you can steamroll most of these minors anyway. It consists of mainland France and the island of Corsica. Thinking their chances poor regardless, Germany gambled on a decisive victory by sending Panzer divisions through Luxembourg and the Ardennes' forested hills, terrain which the French supreme commander Gamelin thought unable to sustain tank movements. The French military completely disintegrated and the French government agreed to an armistice on the 25th of Juneeffectively surrendering the whole countryin a defeat which caused great astonishment to the rest of the world, as up until that point, France was a leading world power (both economically and militarily) that only 20 years earlier had won the Great War. Vichy France will start off with the following economy laws: Vichy France will also retain whatever industry and resources that end up within its zone of jurisdiction (the rest will end up under German occupation). When at peace, the Allies AI (specifically, that of the leader of the Allied faction, and to a lesser extent that of France) is tweaked to try to protect european nations, and to some extent other ones such as in the middle east. The Vichy regime enjoyed diplomatic recognition from the majority of the Axis and Allies and was recognized as the official government of the entirety of metropolitan France except for Alsace-Lorraine and Savoy, which were occupied and annexed by Germany and Italy, respectively. There was an independent India that was in the Axis because of Germany that started justifying on Bhutan. It became a three way front, Allies attacking Germany and soviet union, Italy does not join the axis. 'While we have enjoyed good relations in the past, we cannot risk an escalation of the conflicts across the channel. Our industry will be back to full capacity and it is unlikely we will have strikes anytime soon. . Ruling party is Fascist, Has completed focus Form the Popular Front. View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. The HOI4 Adoriasim SIG is a meta group aiming to create a hoi4 mod out of Adoria with its extensive in sim and pre-sim lore. To the east lies Switzerland and Italy lies to the Southeast separated by the huge Alps mountain range. ( they discussed it on chat) Turkey capped and the Turkey player started raging. Questions, Paradox They also have focuses to form their own faction with Czechoslovakia and invite Yugoslavia and Romania to form the Little Entente - if they do form the Little Entente, they can also take additional focuses to invite the United Kingdom and Poland to the Entente. The german player annexed Austria and i asked him that will he attack me. France is dominated by flat, arable land in the Northwest and forest and highland in the center. France is a major power in 1936, one of the winners of the Great War, and in control of a globe-spanning empire. open.spotify. When everything is complete, you can export the mod, extract the zip file to. We have signed the London Naval Treaty and accordingly are restricted in the size of our capital ships. ( they discussed it on chat) Turkey capped and the Turkey player started raging. The forces of Germany were able to quickly overrun northern France, capturing Paris without a fight. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. When formed, Vichy France will inherit all technology previously researched by France. They are located in the Iberia region of Southwest Europe. Messages 2.247; Major reforms are needed to make our economy more competitive in the global scale. Gets event Protests descend into violence, Has completed focus Utilize the Leagues Interestingly, the way these decisions are coded make it entirely possible for a Fascist France to intervene on the side of Republican Spain and also drag the Axis in. Went and took out british Raj next to free up my eastrn allies. Very odd diplomatic game - France declared war on Germany in April 1939, just days after the Polish rejection of alliance, and after that, everybody pretty much forgot about Mitteleuropa, it seems. He said no if I buy 80 steel from him which i did. After forming the EU, you must restore the monarchy through the Lgitimistes, continue down the focus tree, but before completing be sure that Spain has formed the Iberian union ( if they did the focus for the Iberian union but Portugal refused, if the save is ironman, immediately alt f4, but if on regular mode, reload to the latest auto save until Portugal accepts), Upon completing Focus to annex Spain, you should have cores on all of western Europe (Spain gets a core on Gibraltar when it forms Iberia) and Brazil (if Portugal was able to integrate Mozambique and Angola, you also gain cores on those states as well). We should try and find other sources of manpower to make up for the shortfall, either in recruitment or in the economy. I initially sent volunteers to the democratic France. He was so weak that I guerenteed him as a joke and he thanked me for it. In fact ,if you do well and push back and start invading Germany the AI France will not help you because it can't walk div in a allied country. The Vichy regime would remain in place from its inception in 1940 to 1944, during which it attempted to carry out a series of social/societal transformation programs named the "National Revolution" and "National Regeneration". These are choices of ministers and design companies for France. If the allies are already at war, but not against you, the nations you attack are likely to try and join them but depending one who you play and what's your relation with the allies, they may be reluctant to join the war, especially if you're co-belligerent. 'History has shown how much can be accomplished when our great nations stand side by side. The state of French politics is far from stable. The UK is holding Egypt. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Together we will be a shining beacon of liberty in a world encroached by the darkness of oppression! It also allows Poland to gain colonial holdings in Liberia or Madagascar. As with her tanks, France begins the game with modern naval technology, such as 1936 BB, DD and SS techs and two unique designs: La Fantasque, a destroyer model with tier 3 (1940) engines, and the Surcouf Class submarine with 3 custom slots. Our victory in France is nearly complete. Wait for Germany to capitulate all the minors on the mainland before justifying on an axis member and joining the war. Note that generic names are not listed. Eventually they couldnt hold up and capitulated I had enough victory points to take most of th esoviet union japan got some of the eastrn side of russia but I got 85% of russia. If France is capitulated by a non-democratic Germany and Germany is still at war with another major in the same faction as France, Germany can opt to set up an unofficial government in France - what government this is will depend on what ideology Germany is at the time. If France elects to collaborate with Germany, Germany will be given the choice between establishing the Vichy Regime and warring France into the ground. This will greatly reduce the output of our factories and is viewed as a victory for [Root.GetCommunistParty]. Paris has fallen into German hands, and it is only a matter of time before the rest of the country is occupied. The British government is unwilling to antagonize Germany further, and will not jeopardize the current peace. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Disjointed Government, Political Violence and Inefficient Economy can possibly be removed by completing National Focuses in the Popular Front/National Bloc branch. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Their heartland in Europe is rich; almost half of Africa is under their control, and they have colonies in Indochina, Syria, and Guyana, not to mention direct control of islands in all the oceans of the world. These are the Military Staff candidates for appointment in France. If you spot a mistake then you are welcome to fix it. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Since every war/annexion/justification will increase world tension, it's simply impossible for you to keep world tension low enough to invade Europe as a whole without angering the allies at some point. They are evidently seeking to enslave us all we have no choice but to fight to the last! However, not all Non-Aligned paths are monarchies - for example Poland has 3 authoritarian non-aligned paths and 4 monarchist non-aligned paths, while Spain has an anarchist non-aligned path and a monarchist non-aligned path. If Poland chooses to go Democratic, it has the choice to join the Allies or form a new faction with France. The situation in France is dire. Vichy France, has a unique national focus tree as part of La Rsistance. Should an aggressive adversary like Germany threaten its heartland, France is unlikely to be willing to sustain defensive efforts that could see the entire country devastated. France starts with four National Spirits in Man the Guns and more in La Rsistance: With the Man the Guns expansion enabled, France starts with an additional national spirit: Victors of the Great War can be removed by completing the Army Reform focus at the bottom of the Begin Rearmament branch. Military production is dwarfed by Germany (20 more factories) and Italy (11 more factories) and only on par with Belgium. Even now, a new joint government is being formed in London. Next I declared war against france they had 400 divions compared to my 200 however they stacked them all on Maginot Line so I just held a fallback line while 140 divions went around the line and then capitulated them easily next was the UK not hard once you land in the UK you can take them out easy. Once Vichy France completes the tree, however, it will switch over to the regular French national focus tree (with the National Regeneration path unlocked). An alternative (albeit untested) way to form the EU is to allow Hungary to become a major power and then occupy and hold the territories needed before the peace deal. Valve Corporation. Note that Japan invading China increases WT quite a bit so if you are playing historical, plan for that. Next step is forming the European Union. If the UK refuses to back up France, however, France can either opt to oppose Germany itself (which will also trigger a civil war) or it can back down. For more information, please see our While still a major industrialized country, France has been left behind in terms of concentration of production capabilities. Extending the draft would only exaberate the problem. In almost all my games USA always joins the allies by early 1941, but in my last germany playthrough it joined in 1942, so it depends on what historical path USA chooses or if Japan declares war on them soon. If you want to avoid fighting England it's probably easier just to support a fascist coup in London. Requires National Focus, Can justify wargoals against a country that have not generated world tension, DD battery II, AA I, TT I, TT II, DC I, Light Engine III, 2xCL I batteries, TT I, scout plane I, no armor, 2xCL II batteries, 2xAA I, mines, no armor, 2xAA I, 2xCL II batteries, scout plane I, CL armor I, 2xCA I battery, AA I, TT I, scout plane I, CA Armor I, 2xCA I batteries, 2x AA I, scout plane I, CA Armor I, 2xBB I batteries, 2x AA I, 2xSecondary I, Scout Plane 1, BC Armor II, 2xBB I batteries, 1xAA I, 3xSecondary I, BB Armor I, 2xBB I batteries, 2xAA I, 2xSecondary I, BB Armor I, 2xBB II batteries, 2xAA I, scout plane II, 2xSecondary II, BB Armor II. Germany lost i got 2/3 of Austria and then the Allies went to greece and Turkey to kill them. Tho if they hate you they'll be eager instead. I'm guessing they did their focus ahistorically by chance. But that also depends on world tension and the situation of the game. At the end of its National Focus tree, however, it will receive the choice between joining the Axis, defecting to the Allies, or starting down on the path towards creating a Latin Entente with Italy, Spain and Portugal. In the beginning of the game until 1940 or until world tension is big you have at least 2 freebies without the allies entering. Thankfully, HOI4 will give. Press J to jump to the feed. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. France borders Belgium to the north, with the Ardenne forest making natural bulwark. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. [From.GetLeader] has refused to join the alliance, perhaps doubting our motives, or perhaps being concerned that aligning too closely with us would make them a target. If it weakens then France's security will suffer. Privacy Policy. Be sure to kick Czechoslovakia out of the faction before Sudetenland as otherwise you will end up in a war with Germany too early. Start in Sicily and work your way up the peninsula towards Rome. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Significant rivers include the river Rhine between France and German Reich, Le Rhne to the southeast, La Seine to the northwest, La Loire which runs through the center, and La Garonne which runs in the southwest. These are the results. This is a community maintained wiki. becuase fighting england as germany is just a chore. 1.4K. They will, however, also be shouldered with the heavy occupation costs levied by the Germans.