The Batman movie received a ton of praise and criticism; Joe and the guys share their thoughts on the polarizing film (12:45). Everything is "no no, save that for Patreon!" They discuss the recent inauguration of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (1:07:41) as well as Conway and Griseldas alleged beef (1:21:50). Joe remains adamant about Alec Baldwin's arrest after his 1-year post regarding the shooting (35:55), the guys discuss Madonna's legacy and superstar status (43:55). The Official Facebook Page for the #JoeBuddenPodcast | Videos available on. As the Joe Budden Podcast Implodes, What Would Howard Stern Do https://www.reddit.com/r/theJoeBuddenPodcast/about/rules. Aanu) - "Change" |https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApfFtetkCWQ, On this episode, Joe, Rory and Mal continue their speculation on the beef between Drake and Pusha T. Joe reveals his theory regarding Hip Hop and the importance of who backs you in the industry (10:33). Next, the guys speculate if Kanye leaked a song admitting his wish to beat up Pete Davidson (42:30), Steve Harvey's legacy in television (1:03:30), rappers being removed from planes (1:22:10), and Joe's anticipation for 20/20's investigation of Gabby Petito (1:35:20) and MORE! In the 24 hours since Wednesday's real-time implosion of the Joe Budden Podcast, during which the host of the popular twice-weekly show fired his longtime cohosts Rory Farrell and Jamil 'Mal . This site is protected by reCAPTCHA Enterprise and the Google. *****If you want to write into the show and ask us for advice on something going on in your life, or would like to tell us a story, or just tell us how much you enjoy our amazing podcast email, First and foremost RIP to the great Sean Price, please take a moment to donate to his family here: https://www.crowdrise.com/seanp Half a year of consistent episodes! It debut at No. New Do We Have Sleepers? T-Shirts are available in new color ways! [52] It was preceded by the extended play, Some Love Lost, on November 4, 2014,[53][54] and the singles "Broke" and "Slaughtermouse". Very loaded (in good way) podcast. Log in. They do more for the people around them than theyre paid. Become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Chiiild - Awake (Ft. Mahalia) Ice | EST Gee - No Friends (Ft. Yo Gotti & 42 Dugg) Parks | Rigz - Misled Ish | Passport Rav- Cali Breeze (Ft. The guys then talk about what they do when refurnishing their homes and what areas they struggle with (20:50). Sleeper Picks Joe | Jim Jones - Anybody (Ft. Sandra Conte) Rory | Big Sean - 100 (Ft. Royce Da 59 & Kendrick Lamar) Mal | Blxst - Got It All (Ft. Dom Kennedy) Parks | LE$ - "Sick", Although Joe, Rory, Mal and Parks have made it clear they don't believe the Grammy's respect or understand the culture, there are artist that still strive to win the Award (21:58). Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | THEY. Audiomack streams will now influence Billboard chart postitions (1:22:35) after announcing inked licensing agreements with major labels like Sony and UMG. Become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Isaia Huron - Self! Ice | The Lox - What Else You Need To Know Parks | Fat Joe, DJ Drama, Cool & Dre - Demon Girl (Ft. Ivory Scott) Ish | Mon Moore - Battlez, Pt. on his execution of the interview (36:25), analyzes many of the profound statements Ye made (42:15), the issue with black artists being limited to "rappers" (1:06:30), and Joe addresses Big Sean's issues with Ye (1:24:30). Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Mal: Slaughterhouse "See Dead People" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iayIZdIvzqs Rory: Jordan Rakei "The Light" | https://soundcloud.com/jordan-rakei/the-light-1 Joe: Emanny "Black Heart EP" | Available 2/13/17, Joe, Mal, Ice, and Rory discuss The Giants, Obama, Nicki x Meek, the undercards of Soulja Boy vs Chris Brown, and more! r/theJoeBuddenPodcast Friends of the Show - reddit The Game & Rome Streetz) Ish | Dibasi - Intro, Unlike previous Verzuz recaps, Joe shared his desire to not criticize but appreciate two of Hip Hop's greatest legends (Big Daddy Kane and KRS-One) as they performed their timeless catalogue of hits (23:10). Also, Jemele Hill presents the question of if it's time to discuss Biggie and Tupac being removed from people's top 5 lists? Ice reviews Jeezys new album (25:30). Summer Walker re-releases her debut album with a twist (39:02). This week, Wale released his project "Folarin II" and Big Sean dropped a single. They kick things off discussing the importance of spending time with their families (18:15), Michael Rubin's celebrity-filled party (32:55), and how DSP's are shadowbanning artists (42:45). Shortly after, Joe and Rory discuss Nicki Minajs rant and the awkward video of her opening gifts which leads to Joe asking questions regarding Nickis health (58:00). Episode 36 we're joined by former hip hop music attorney, Combat Jack, the current host of the Combat Jack Show, and the founder of Loud Speakers Network. Parks has something to celebrate as well with the release of his new album (1:12:17), a discussion on the Kith and Dipset collaboration which lead to a conversation about Kith over-saturating themselves with brand partnerships (1:37:36) and Akademiks gets confronted by Meek Mill and others upon joining the chatty house app (2:21:09) and much more! It's only right we give a little more to those who view us as family. Share. : Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Rico Love - For The Kids Ice | Albee Al - Im From Marion Parks | Cormega - Glorious (Ft. Nas) Ish | Jaz Karis - SIDE OF YOU, On this weeks episode, the guys break down Draymond Green punching Jordan Poole in practice (07:30). For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden, On this episode: Joe & the guys discuss French Montanas driver getting robbed at gunpoint in downtown New York (24:55) and the importance of being safe while outside opens back up (41:00). OJIZZ) - Party Time XXV Parks | Bun B & Statik Selektah (feat. Become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Jovanie - Mil on That Ice | CoachDaGhost - Eternal Life Parks | Evidence - All Of That Said (Ft. Boldy James) Ish | Eric Roberson - LESSONS, On this episode: Joe & the guys discuss new music from Tyler The Creator (13:45), J. Cole comparisons (14:15), and Pharells verse being the best on the project (21:30). Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Omar Wilson - Secret Garden (Extended Mix) Ft. Sisq, Shawn Stockman & Raheem DeVaughn Ice | BIG30 - No Hospital Gang Parks | J. Arrr - Growth (Ft. Elzhi) Ish | Quincy Jones - The Secret Garden (Ft. Barry White, Al B. Sleep Songs Of The Week: Mari: Kodak Black No Flockin | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE_-obgiWm0 Joe: Augus Alsina Porn Star | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNd2_v3UgIo Rory: Billy Ocean Nights (Feel Like Getting Down) | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZAIyMFbDnA, The Drake conversation that no one will have. Budden quickly became a mixtape fixture,[12] and secured a major deal with Def Jam Recordings in 2002. [27][28][29], On October 28, 2008, Budden released his third studio album, Halfway House, exclusively in digital format. Pay close attention the gems that were dropped during this episode. Skip navigation. We've been talking about having her on this show since Episode 1, only took 36 weeks lol we finally sat with the lovely Amber Rose and talked everything, well, Amber. : Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden, The JBP opens 2023 by welcoming back QueenzFlip & Melyssa Ford to the podcast. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP. We ended 2017 with a million views in a week, shout out to the fans for rocking with us. Patreon Exclusive | No Time For Feelings feat. DJ Akademiks | The Joe Also, updates on the YSL case (2:04:15), Tyre Nichols passing (2:12:12), Part of the Show (2:22:30), + MORE! 445 Comments. Ice asks how the guys deal with girls show interest while in a relationship (1:05:45). Three more women accuse Houston Texans QB, Deshaun Watson, of sexual assault (44:42), and the guys speak to holding everyone accountable, including Governor Cuomo (53:40). 15 on the UK BPI charts. For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Playboy - Pussy Fairy R & b Freestyle Ice | Spinabenz - Who I Smoke (Ft. Whoppa Wit Da Choppa, Yungeen Ace & FastMoney Goon) Ish | Young Jeezy - Go Crazy (Ft. Jay-Z) Parks | Trev Rich - 24-8, On this episode: Joe and the guys discuss Summer Walker welcoming her new daughter, Bubble Gum (11:27), Coi Leary receiving body-shaming backlash for her promo video (18:00), and prom with Trey Budden (29:45). Jammed Up | Joe Budden on Patreon is lynne hybels still married to bill. Joe and the guys speculate on the trio's rumored separation (13:25). viiskulman terveysasema 10. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP. Covid-19 hit close to home this past week, so Joe and the guys gave a Zoom-cast until they return in-studio. Joe explains why he loves . Sleeper Picks Joe | Bryson Tiller - Sorrows Rory | Emotional Oranges - All That (Ft. Channel Tres) Mal | Benny The Butcher & Hit-Boy - Legend Parks | Da Cloth - Ask Me Why, On this weeks episode, Joe addresses Eminem. Next, Tory Lanez is unimpressed with music in 2022 (1:23:10), Donald Trump's home gets raided (1:32:45), and MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Tai Mistyque - Toxic Ice | Baby Money - Moncler Bubble (Ft. Babyface Ray & Peezy) Parks | The Musalini & 9th Wonder - Don Music (Ft. 38 Spesh) Ish | Madison Ryann Ward - Mirror, In this episode, Joe and the guys uncover the controversy between Joe Rogan and Spotify (17:30). : Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Dixson - Cherry Sorbet (Ft. Sevyn) Ice | Rucci & RJMrLA - What If? Parks | Boldy James & Real Bad Man - Aint No Bon Jovi Ish | Usher - Crash, Did the Migos really break up? Starting with Cardi B and her response to a fan stating she won't be releasing an album in the foreseeable future (17:30) and addressing Alex Jones after he went on a vile rant aimed at Joe (23:40). The media personality is bringing his Joe Budden Network to the Patreon platform, giving fans of his show the option of becoming members for between $5 and $25 each month. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Don Toliver - Swangin On Westheimer Ice | Icewear Vezzo - Get Bacc Parks | Dj Swet & Milano Constantine - Block Work Ish | Kane Brown - Blessed & Free (H.E.R. Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Joe: August Alsina "Wait" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAqxgK-fa4E Rory: Flores "Undercover" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW_Ss-a03nw Mal: Young MA "Hot Sauce" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7f3IEnfqXI, This week we make Mal admit to being bias, attack Rory's Pro Trump haircut & Cyn is here to remind me of how loved i am. [11][5] With his son on the way, Budden began taking music more seriously. Then, the "Worst Take" sports segment returns as the guys recap a wild weekend in the NFL (36:55), and Odell Beckham Jr. paid in Bitcoin while the market is crashing (1:03:10). The JBP addresses caring about money (34:00), hypotheticals on the podcast ending (35:00), and Parks & Joe give their own takes on how the situation played out (38:50). The Oh What a Night event turned out to be great and incase youre wondering, Mal actually debuted his spoken word talents. Tygas OnlyFans (2:10:00), Snowfall recap **SPOILER ALERT** (2:21:35), Prince Philip (3:05:20), Philip Adams massacre (3:07:00), Diddys letter to corporate America (3:10:00), and MORE! Jammed Up. 48 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart. Also, the crew discuss if Wendy Williams 'run' as a prominent TV host is over (1:41:45), the NBA Finals (1:47:50) and MORE! They also discuss Kanye West's documentary "Jeen-Yuhs" (34:45), what qualifies a rapper being a superstar (59:40), and Joe shares his thoughts on mortality (1:40:20). Sleeper Picks Joe | DJ Tunez - PAMI (Ft. Wizkid, Adekunle Gold & Omah Lay) Rory | Tailz - OMW Mal | Azealia Banks - 6 Flags (Ft. Also, a discussion about R&B and the music business (1:12:20). Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | RINI - Over Some Wine (Ft. Maeta) Ice | Payroll Giovanni - Hustle Muzik 4 Parks | Young Thug - Day Before (Ft. Mac Miller) Ish | Lil Durk - Pissed Me Off, Although Meek Mill released music on his new album, 'Expensive Pain', he's garnered attention primarily for the album's artwork (25:00). Ice believes Big Sean could possibly be sending subliminal messages to Kendrick Lamar (25:00) and explains why Instagram ended the diss songs in Hip Hop (36:10). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things J.B.P. Joe Budden. Next, the guys discuss Elon Musk is buying Twitter (1:32:00), Tom Bradys divorce (1:37:40), and the Golden State Warriors (1:49:55). Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Episode 494 Sleeper Picks Joe | Alina Baraz - Take It Home & Victoria Mont - F.U.C.K. Ice | Chris Brown - Last All Night Parks | Parks & Passport Gift - Arctic League Ish | Sinead Harnett - If You Let Me (Ft. GRADES), Ye (Kanye West) and Drake came together for a one-night-only concert and performed hits from their respective catalogs (17:54), leading Joe and the crew to react. 772 Comments. Sleeper Picks: Rory: Elley Duh "Immortal" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfk6-lZUUvQ Joe: Tone Stith "Let Me" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca7OtXNYQUc Mal: Conway The Machine "Bullet Club" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6POxFMMcUQ, Episode 124, some what serious, some what not .. a lot covered in 90 minutes. : Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden, On this weeks episode, Joe condemns Kanyes comments towards different communities (18:05). In 2010, a warrant for Budden was issued by the Hudson County, New Jersey Sheriff's Office for unpaid child support. Then, hurricane Chris defends himself against an artist who sampled his song (51:30), Yung Miami debuted her new show (1:15:10), Part of the Show segment (2:01:30), and MORE! Photographer and NFT maximalist, J.N. No, this is not their top 20 rappers of all time list. [56] In the aftermath of the feud, Mendez was replaced on Budden's podcast by Jamil "Mal" Clay, after which the show became known as The Joe Budden Podcast. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP. Bow Wow and Papoose are retiring from rap (2:01:05), and the guys break down low self esteem (2:06:30) as well as the timing of a rappers retirement (2:28:20). Welcome to the Joe Budden Network Patroni-Verse !!! Maybe you're unsure and just want a quick appetizer of content. Saweeties tweets (2:23:00), Kanye Wests billionaire status (2:23:00), Snow Fall (2:40:00), and MORE! For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks of the Episode Joe | Manny Wellz - So Good Rory | Emotional Oranges - Body & Soul (Ft. Biig Piig) Mal | Chase Fetti - Show Me Parks | Devin the Dude - P.L.A.N.S.A. (Ft. Tony Mac), Joe and the guys kick off Episode 419 by addressing Drake's beef with Rory (5:20) and Joe feeling uncomfortable without structure (13:25). Joe wants to know if and when its cool to set your girlfriend as the lock screen on your phone (10:47). They also discuss how Drake is the biggest bully in Hip Hop but doesnt respond well to pressure (29:14). Salute. If you've been with us since Episode 2 you may remember Joe painfully discussing his childhood crush not giving him the time of day in 6th grade. Silva, joins the JBP to explain NFT (2:03:55), Papoose raps about cereal (2:45:00), Coming 2 America (3:04:30), and more! Sleeper Picks of the week: Joe: Luke James - These Arms | https://youtu.be/F2FqwkNKhXg Rory: The Internet - Come Over | https://youtu.be/lovts-q5s0s Mal: K. Forest - Blue Moon | https://youtu.be/t4qZUsPrbME, Hip Hop has been filled with headlines this past week and Joe, Rory and Mal unpack it all. For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks of the Episode: Joe | Tempest - Not The Same Rory | The Game - 360 Bars Freestyle Mal | Majid Jordan - Not Ashamed Parks | DAngelo - Devils Pie, Joe and the guys kick things off by exploring how well Mal knows Rory (3:31) and sharing their individual introductions to Hip Hop in light of the JBPs 6th Year Anniversary (22:32). Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP. Then, after a seemingly low projection of first-week sales, Joe calls for an investigation of Chris Brown's album sales (51:10), and the guys tap into conspiracy mode (59:35). LEGO & Universal announce their new deal in launching a new music video making app for children (1:40:33), and City Girls & DaBaby join BRS Kash on the new Throat Baby remix. The crew also highlight Meek Mill's tweets claiming he never received any money from music labels (54:30), a fan gifting Tom Brady his 600th touchdown ball (1:58:50) and MORE! Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. http://bit.ly/2FswBaN Other topics include: -Valentines Day plans (32:04) -Troy Ave interview recap (1:03:00) -Is it cold out here for Tory Lanez? Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP. Kyler Murray and Zion Williamson's introduce new contract structure in sports (1:44:15), Part of the Show segment (2:03:45) and PJ Morton joins the podcast (1:05:10). Joe asks if the guys can be intimate with a woman who is ticklish (1:32:30). Parks shines a light on President Bidens marijuana reform policy (1:48:40), part Of The Show makes a return (2:12:45) + MORE! And the guys discuss Jimmy Butler (1:34:17), LeBron going to the Lakers (1:36:36) and checks in with Mal to express his disgust for the NBA (1:46:32). Lastly, Joe discusses Kyrie Irving opting into his contract with the Brooklyn Nets (1:37:10); Ice believes Wale would sweep J. Cole in a Verzuz battle (2:02:00), and a variety of other topics the guys discuss! We're joined by good friend Raqi Thunda and discuss the weekend, recent dates, divorce court, men vs women, ect. Although Kanye's album dropped 2 weeks ago, it was the track that he didn't release that had everyone talking this weekend, specifically Andre 3000's featured verse (27:55). Joe Budden Ends Podcast After Firing Co-Hosts Rory and Mal - TheWrap The crew debate why it was left off of the album and unanimously agree that 3 stacks should return to making music and Joe claims Andre 3000 is the second greatest rapper alive (46:40). Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | KAMAUU - MANGO (Ft. Adeline & Masego) Ice | Ryan Blades - Malice At The Palace (Ft. Impala) Parks | The Cool Kids - PICK UP ON LINE 6 Ish | Che Ecru - 2AM, Joe begins with letting people know that it's acceptable to be comfortable with yourself (11:50). Ish explains the dangers of Kanyes mentality (40:40). Joe | SAINt JHN - Sucks To Be You Rory | SG Lewis - Feed The Fire (Ft. Lucky Daye) Mal | Xavier Omr - Surf (Ft. Masego) Parks | Reason - Flick It Up (Ft. Ab-Soul), On this episode: Joe and the guys open up with their thoughts on Ty Dolla $ign's new album (15:16) and the other new music releases (30:42). the content in that chat was better than the pod , shit was a community. Other topics include: Album reviews - Big K.R.I.T, Ty Dolla $ign, 112, Yo Gotti, and Majid Jordan (32:08) Kevin Spacey controversy (1:11:35) Joe addresses Nicki Minajs tweets (2:09:55) Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Rory: Majid Jordan "Gave Your Love Away" Mal: JAG "The Outro" (Dalton Ave mixtape) Joe: Chris Brown "Tough Love", Joe, Rory and Mal finally had the chance to discuss Eminems freestyle (2:26). "Beef" Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Joe: Jay-Z "Blueprint 2" Rory: Jadakiss "Checkmate" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd4OWtKiU-w Ice: Arsonal "Spring Cleanin" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKUNrlgTuPQ Mal: Kriss Kross "Jump" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010KyIQjkTk, The guys sit down to discuss New Orleans, fighting signs, Mendeecee's 30 for 30, snipers, past stories, the Drake interview, and more! A lot of healthy conversation, how our SXSW prep has been going, some quick therapy, living in your 20's, Karrueche, and much more! Megan Thee Stallion & DaBaby argue his collaboration with Tory Lanez and liking questionable tweets (1:17:45), and Dame Dash attempts to sell his stake in Roc-A-Fella (1:48:50). The guys recap Nipsey Hussle & Jay-Z's new song "What It Feels Like" (31:05), Joe delivers a Screenman verse (47:35), and Mal delivers a freestyle in light of Drake allegedly dropping new music this week (53:40). My favorite podcast EVER. The Joe Budden Network attends a code of conduct meeting (48:10), and Joe recaps Diddys party (54:35). Preorder -- https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/all-love-lost-deluxe-edition/id1039171292 I also ask if you can please take the time to donate, any amount helps, thanks! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Vedo - Juicy (Ft. Ari Lennox) Ice | Suga J - RESPECKFULLY Parks | Tha God Fahim & Your Old Droog - Lost His away Ish | Kevin AntoniYo - FMX (Ft. Devvon Terrell & Mike Classic), Are you willing to be considered an employee for your partner if that benefited the relationship financially? LeBron James passes Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on the NBAs all-time scoring list (22:07), HYBE America acquires Quality Control Music for $300 million (43:55), and Billboard/Vibe also wrap up their Top-50 Rappers of All-Time list (52:48). And Joe recaps Power (1:21:02) and shares a message for a few R&B artists (1:32:00). : Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks: Joe | B. Smyth - Too Many Reasons Ice | Roddy Ricch feat. The guys honor Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.s legacy in light of this past MLK Day (29:01), and Joe finds a problem with Funk Flexs list of the Top 50 Greatest MCs (53:18). Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP. Joe Budden Fires Rory and Checks Mal on 'The Joe Budden Podcast' (UPDATE) Trace William Cowen is a writer who also tweets with dramatic irregularity here.
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